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Nadoku Samin · Feb 15, 2009, 05:17 AM // 05:17

I'm not sure if this belongs in this area of the forums, but if it does not - I'm truly sorry.

But - what campaign is best to make a MM in? I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but... yeah. >_<

Thank you,
N_S

Ghostcell · Feb 15, 2009, 05:46 AM // 05:46

don't play as a MM, heroes do a better job at it.
run discord or ss

The Lost Explorer · Feb 15, 2009, 06:03 AM // 06:03

all 3 games have good MM Elites but if id have to start one it would be Factions only because its faster to level up and I like the Fleshy for a Human MM

Kerwyn Nasilan · Feb 15, 2009, 06:56 AM // 06:56

While I would advise having a hero run [jagged bones][animate bone minions][death nova] if you insist on being the MM probably factions for [animate flesh golem]

FoxBat · Feb 15, 2009, 07:25 AM // 07:25

[Order of Undeath][Animate Bone Fiend]

Heroes are decent minion bombers, but they're actually pretty bad at a pure minion damage build like that, supported by some barbs/mop. And I'm also seeing their tendency to lag behind the rest of the party casting novas as an increasing liability. [Aura of the Lich] also has some niche applications for intelligent humans.

Icy The Mage · Feb 15, 2009, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Well considering [Aura of the Lich] originates in the Prophecies Campaign, by your logic, start in Tyria!

WhiteAsIce · Feb 15, 2009, 09:46 AM // 09:46

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Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive

Well considering [Aura of the Lich] originates in the Prophecies Campaign, by your logic, start in Tyria!

[Aura of the Lich] is not obtainable until the final mission by normal means. The OP would have to either complete the required missions to get there to cap it, or use faction and an elite tome to learn it.

Calista Blackblood · Feb 15, 2009, 10:48 AM // 10:48

It doesn't matter where you start your necro.All the elites are obtainable anyways.But..

Prophecies: [aura of the lich]
Factions: Don't even bother with [animate flesh golem] total waste of an elite slot and not that good.Although [tainted flesh] +[discord] may have future uses.
Nightfall:[jagged bones]for heros +[order of undeath]for you.Bingo!

Also if you're sensible you would stay away from [animate bone fiend]. While they are a ranged minion they also have one of the weakest armors and tend to clump together tightly making them highly susceptable to AoE.

Zebideedee · Feb 15, 2009, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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don't play as a MM, heroes do a better job at it.

Amen to that, same applies to blocker/interupt Mesmers, they can stop monster skills that we mere humans can't, we'll maybe the pokemon, Polymock players can give them a run for their money

Ps. Calista I switch between MM's and Olias has Flesh Golem, we make mincemeat of the monsters when vanquishing, I guess it's about how and when you use it

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making them highly susceptable to AoE

My heroes minions always escape AOE because in single player, almost all spells/interupts/curses are directed at me, the slowpoke minions join the fight shortly after the enemies have cast all their best skills lol, the fools

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Raven Wing · Feb 15, 2009, 01:21 PM // 13:21

My favorite for human MM is aura of the lich. You get free minions even before killing anything, you get +1 attribute, and when there are multiple corpses available you animate them all with 1 spell. You will raise more minions than you can hold, but thats just fine since you replace the old and most fragile ones.
That would require prophecies since its capped in the last mission, Hells Precipice.

Calista Blackblood · Feb 15, 2009, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Oh please.Everyone with any sense knows that FG is a terrible useless elite.It's now vastly overshadowed by [[aura of the lich] and [[order of undeath](humans) and [[jagged bones](hero bombers)

The only appeal EVER of [animate flesh golem] is the high level minion.Which is never needed unless you suck horribly at GW.Easily capped newbie elite yes but any decent regular of Campfire/Necromancer(Carinae,Moloch,Xen,Chthon <3 ) will say the same.

On a human MM [order of undeath] + [ebon battle standard of honor] + [animate vampiric horror]

MagmaRed · Feb 15, 2009, 02:22 PM // 14:22

I'd vote for Nightfall. All 3 games offer useful skills for an MM, but Nightfall has the most in my opinion. Skills I use often as an MM:

Prophecies:
[aura of the lich][Animate bone horror][Infuse Condition][verata's gaze][verata's aura]

Factions:
[animate flesh golem][animate vampiric horror]

Nightfall:
[order of undeath][jagged bones][animate shambling horror][feast for the dead][putrid flesh]

Prophecies has the same number of skills, but Order of Undeath on a human MM that knows how to use it is insanely powerful. And Jagged Bones on a hero is able to keep an army running much longer than normal. Outside of Vamp horrors, Factions doesn't really offer anything of use. Golem is way over rated. As the first elite specifically designed for an MM, it got heavy use early on. Later people realized other options were better and have moved away from it. The Verata skills are mainly for dealing with other MMs in places like AB, so you will rarely want or need them in PvE.

Nadoku Samin · Feb 15, 2009, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Thank you for your help, and I have decided to just let Olias be a MM.

Thank you,
N_S

Nadoku Samin · Feb 15, 2009, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Thank you for your help, and I have decided to just let Olias be a MM.

Thank you,
N_S

FengShuiDove · Feb 15, 2009, 06:42 PM // 18:42

[Order of Undeath] is sex. Heroes can't run this build either.

Feb 15, 2009, 05:17 AM // 05:17	#1
Nadoku Samin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Guild: The Sadistic Omnipotence [TSO] Profession: W/A	Minion Master = Campaign? I'm not sure if this belongs in this area of the forums, but if it does not - I'm truly sorry. But - what campaign is best to make a MM in? I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but... yeah. >_< Thank you, N_S

Feb 15, 2009, 10:48 AM // 10:48	#8
Calista Blackblood Permanently Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Guild: Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide] Profession: N/	It doesn't matter where you start your necro.All the elites are obtainable anyways.But.. Prophecies: [aura of the lich] Factions: Don't even bother with [animate flesh golem] total waste of an elite slot and not that good.Although [tainted flesh] +[discord] may have future uses. Nightfall:[jagged bones]for heros +[order of undeath]for you.Bingo! Also if you're sensible you would stay away from [animate bone fiend]. While they are a ranged minion they also have one of the weakest armors and tend to clump together tightly making them highly susceptable to AoE. __________________ *The best goodbyes are like a knife in the dark: short, simple and to the point*

Feb 15, 2009, 02:13 PM // 14:13	#11
Calista Blackblood Permanently Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Guild: Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide] Profession: N/	Oh please.Everyone with any sense knows that FG is a terrible useless elite.It's now vastly overshadowed by [[aura of the lich] and [[order of undeath](humans) and [[jagged bones](hero bombers) The only appeal EVER of [animate flesh golem] is the high level minion.Which is never needed unless you suck horribly at GW.Easily capped newbie elite yes but any decent regular of Campfire/Necromancer(Carinae,Moloch,Xen,Chthon <3 ) will say the same. On a human MM [order of undeath] + [ebon battle standard of honor] + [animate vampiric horror] __________________ *The best goodbyes are like a knife in the dark: short, simple and to the point*

Feb 15, 2009, 05:46 AM // 05:46	#2
Ghostcell Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: =VX9= Profession: N/Mo	don't play as a MM, heroes do a better job at it. run discord or ss

Feb 15, 2009, 06:03 AM // 06:03	#3
The Lost Explorer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2007 Guild: [AvA] Profession: Rt/	all 3 games have good MM Elites but if id have to start one it would be Factions only because its faster to level up and I like the Fleshy for a Human MM

Feb 15, 2009, 06:56 AM // 06:56	#4
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	While I would advise having a hero run [jagged bones][animate bone minions][death nova] if you insist on being the MM probably factions for [animate flesh golem]

Feb 15, 2009, 07:25 AM // 07:25	#5
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	[Order of Undeath][Animate Bone Fiend] Heroes are decent minion bombers, but they're actually pretty bad at a pure minion damage build like that, supported by some barbs/mop. And I'm also seeing their tendency to lag behind the rest of the party casting novas as an increasing liability. [Aura of the Lich] also has some niche applications for intelligent humans.

Feb 15, 2009, 09:42 AM // 09:42	#6
Icy The Mage Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Profession: E/	Well considering [Aura of the Lich] originates in the Prophecies Campaign, by your logic, start in Tyria!

Feb 15, 2009, 01:21 PM // 13:21	#10
Raven Wing Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI] Profession: N/	My favorite for human MM is aura of the lich. You get free minions even before killing anything, you get +1 attribute, and when there are multiple corpses available you animate them all with 1 spell. You will raise more minions than you can hold, but thats just fine since you replace the old and most fragile ones. That would require prophecies since its capped in the last mission, Hells Precipice.

Feb 15, 2009, 02:22 PM // 14:22	#12
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	I'd vote for Nightfall. All 3 games offer useful skills for an MM, but Nightfall has the most in my opinion. Skills I use often as an MM: Prophecies: [aura of the lich][Animate bone horror][Infuse Condition][verata's gaze][verata's aura] Factions: [animate flesh golem][animate vampiric horror] Nightfall: [order of undeath][jagged bones][animate shambling horror][feast for the dead][putrid flesh] Prophecies has the same number of skills, but Order of Undeath on a human MM that knows how to use it is insanely powerful. And Jagged Bones on a hero is able to keep an army running much longer than normal. Outside of Vamp horrors, Factions doesn't really offer anything of use. Golem is way over rated. As the first elite specifically designed for an MM, it got heavy use early on. Later people realized other options were better and have moved away from it. The Verata skills are mainly for dealing with other MMs in places like AB, so you will rarely want or need them in PvE.

Feb 15, 2009, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#13
Nadoku Samin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Guild: The Sadistic Omnipotence [TSO] Profession: W/A	Thank you for your help, and I have decided to just let Olias be a MM. Thank you, N_S

Feb 15, 2009, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#14
Nadoku Samin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Guild: The Sadistic Omnipotence [TSO] Profession: W/A	Thank you for your help, and I have decided to just let Olias be a MM. Thank you, N_S

Feb 15, 2009, 06:42 PM // 18:42	#15
FengShuiDove Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] Profession: A/	[Order of Undeath] is sex. Heroes can't run this build either.